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== Sound Comparison ==
 
== Sound Comparison ==
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* This arrangment consists only of vinyl items.
 
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* For each session there was a representativ song selected, which is
 
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: for the [[Wed, 25-Aug-1982|John Peel Session '82]] the song '''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''
 
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: for the [[Sun, 06-Mar-1983|Kid Jensen Session '83]] the song '''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''
 
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: for the [[Tue, 19-Jun-1984|John Peel Session '84]] the song '''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''
 
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| '''''Bootleg:'''''
 
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| <center>Present item</center>
 
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| <center>[[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP</center>
 
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| <center>[[Jolene bw No Time To Cry]] 7"</center>
 
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| <center>[[Lord Of Darkness]] LP</center>
 
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| '''''Year of release:'''''&emsp;&emsp;
 
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| <center>2018</center>
 
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| <center>2014</center>
 
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| <center>late eighties</center>
 
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| <center>unknown</center>
 
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| [[File:Complete BBC Radio One Sessions1.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:GimmeShelterFront.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:Jolene - No Time To Cry Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:Lord of Darkness FRONT.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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|'''''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''''
 
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| [[File:Floor Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Floor Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Floor Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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|'''''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''''
 
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| [[File:Heartland Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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|  [[File:Heartland Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Heartland Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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|'''''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''''
 
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| [[File:NoTimeToCry Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Single.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| <center>[[A Black Pack]] DLP</center>
 
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| <center>[[Psychedelic Sessions 1986]] LP</center>
 
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| <center>[[The Dancer's Reward]] LP</center>
 
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| <center>[[Halloween In Arkham]] LP</center>
 
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| <center>[[Psychedelic Sessions]] 1984 LP</center>
 
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| '''''Year of release:'''''&emsp;&emsp;
 
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| <center>1986</center>
 
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| <center>1986</center>
 
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| <center>1985</center>
 
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| <center>1984</center>
 
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| [[File:A Black Pack Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:Psychedelic Sessions 1986 LP Front.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:The Dancers Reward Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:Halloween in arkham front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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| [[File:Psychedelic Sessions 1984 LP 1st Edition Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
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|'''''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''''
 
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| [[File:Floor Black.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Floor Psychedelic86.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Floor Psychedelic84.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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|'''''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''''
 
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| [[File:Heartland Psychedelic84.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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|'''''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''''
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Black.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Psychedelic86.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Dancer.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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| [[File:Notimetocry Halloween.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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'''Technical remarks'''
 
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* The songs were reproduced by a ''Pioneer PLX 500'' turmtable and digitized with its software ''Rekordbox DVS''.
 
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* Due to Wikipedia storage space limits the files had to be converted from a lossless format to mp3.
 
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: All the songs went through the ''same'' conversion process and are accordingly still comparable,
 
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: although they are of less sound quality than the originally generated files.
 
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* The records were taken from a private collection. They have different grades of use and age.
 
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: According to the [https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items Goldmine Standard for grading] most of the vinyls are ''near mint'',
 
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: with the exception of [[Lord Of Darkness]], [[Halloween In Arkham]] and [[Jolene bw No Time To Cry]], which are ''very good plus'',
 
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: and [[A Black Pack]] that can be considered as ''very good''.
 
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* We want to emphasize that all the sound files are the first seconds of the songs.
 
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'''Analisis'''
 
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* First and foremost one should turn his attention to
 
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'''Further observations'''
 
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[[User:Robertundbobi|Robertundbobi]] ([[User talk:Robertundbobi|talk]]) 19:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:00, 28 December 2018

Sound Comparison


Further observations

  • The up- and downturn of the speed in Floorshow (seconds 6 to 7) on the present item, the Complete BBC Radio One Sessions Box, as well as on the Gimme Shelter LP,
give the impression that the songs come from the same sorce, which is most likely a different one from the other bootlegs.
Sometimes songs get shortened on a LP due to the limited time of one record side, which should be about 22 minutes.
If the playing time would increase, the record lacked sound quality.
For example, the second side of the Psychedelic Sessions 1986 LP has got a total playing time of 23:15 minutes.
Maybe this was the reason why the beginning of No Time To Cry was skipped there.
On the present item non of the songs is shortened.



Robertundbobi (talk) 19:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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