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== Sound Comparison ==
 
== Sound Comparison ==
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'''Further observations'''
* This arrangment consists only of vinyl items.
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* The up and down turning of the speed in [[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]] (seconds 6 to 7) on the present item, the Complete BBC Radio One Sessions Box,
* For each session there was cosen a representativ song, which is
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: and likewise on the [[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP, suggests that the source of these two bootlegs was the same and very likely a different one to that of the other bootlegs.
: for the [[Wed, 25-Aug-1982|John Peel Session '82]] the song: '''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''
 
: for the [[Sun, 06-Mar-1983|Kid Jensen Session '83]] the song: '''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''
 
: for the [[Tue, 19-Jun-1984|John Peel Session '84]] the song: '''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''
 
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{|
 
| '''''Bootleg:'''''
 
| <center>Complete BBC Radio<br/>One Sessions Box</center>
 
| <center>[[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP</center>
 
| <center>[[Jolene bw No Time To Cry]] 7"</center>
 
| <center>[[Lord Of Darkness]] LP</center>
 
|-
 
| '''''Year of release:'''''&emsp;&emsp;
 
| <center>2018</center>
 
| <center>2014</center>
 
| <center>late eighties</center>
 
| <center>unknown</center>
 
|-
 
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| [[File:Complete BBC Radio One Sessions1.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:GimmeShelterFront.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:Jolene - No Time To Cry Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:Lord of Darkness FRONT.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
|-
 
|'''''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''''
 
| [[File:Floor Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Floor Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| [[File:Floor Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
 
|-
 
|'''''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''''
 
| [[File:Heartland Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
 
|  [[File:Heartland Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| [[File:Heartland Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
 
|-
 
|'''''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''''
 
| [[File:NoTimeToCry Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Single.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
 
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|}
 
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{|
 
| '''''Bootleg:'''''
 
| <center>[[A Black Pack]] DLP</center>
 
| <center>[[Psychedelic Sessions 1986]] LP</center>
 
| <center>[[The Dancer's Reward]] LP</center>
 
| <center>[[Halloween In Arkham]] LP</center>
 
| <center>[[Psychedelic Sessions]] 1984 LP</center>
 
|-
 
| '''''Year of release:'''''&emsp;&emsp;
 
| <center>1986</center>
 
| <center>1986</center>
 
| <center>1985</center>
 
| <center>1984</center>
 
| <center>1984</center>
 
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| [[File:A Black Pack Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:Psychedelic Sessions 1986 LP Front.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:The Dancers Reward Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:Halloween in arkham front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
| [[File:Psychedelic Sessions 1984 LP 1st Edition Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
 
|-
 
|'''''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''''
 
| [[File:Floor Black.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Floor Psychedelic86.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| [[File:Floor Psychedelic84.mp3|170px|center]]
 
|-
 
|'''''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''''
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| <center>---</center>
 
| [[File:Heartland Psychedelic84.mp3|170px|center]]
 
|-
 
|'''''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''''
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Black.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Psychedelic86.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Dancer.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| [[File:Notimetocry Halloween.mp3|170px|center]]
 
| <center>---</center>
 
|-
 
|}
 
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'''Technical remarks'''
 
 
 
* The songs were reproduced by a ''Pioneer PLX 500'' turmtable and digitized with its software ''Rekordbox DVS''.
 
 
 
* Due to Wikipedia storage space limits the files had to be converted from a lossless format to mp3.
 
: All the songs went through the ''same'' conversion process and are accordingly still comparable,
 
: although they are of less sound quality than the originally generated files.
 
  
* The records were taken from a private collection. They have different grades of use and age.
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* On most of the bootlegs mentioned here, some songs are cut, which is clearly audible on [[Heartland (song)|Heartland]] and [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]].
: According to the [https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items Goldmine Standard for grading] most of the vinyls are ''near mint'',
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: Sometimes songs get cut on LPs because time available for one record side is limited to about 22 minutes
: with the exception of [[Lord Of Darkness]], [[Halloween In Arkham]] and [[Jolene bw No Time To Cry]], which are ''very good plus'',
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: and going beyond this limit would result in decreased sound quality.
: and [[A Black Pack]] that can be considered as ''very good''.
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: Side 2 of the [[Psychedelic Sessions 1986]] LP, for example, has a total playing time of 23:15 minutes,
: One should bear this in mind while comparing the sounds.
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: which might be the reason why the beginning of [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]] is cut from that record.
  
* We want to emphasize that all the sound files are the first seconds of the songs.
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* On the present item all songs appear in full length.
: The files were not shortened during the recording and conversion process.
 
 
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'''Analisis'''
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[[User:Robertundbobi|Robertundbobi]] ([[User talk:Robertundbobi|talk]]) 19:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
* First and foremost one should turn his attention to
 
: - the clearness of the instruments and if they are distinguishable.
 
: - to the treble sound, like the the sound of the hi-hat of [[Doktor Avalanche]] and if it is to sharp or - the other way around - even lost.
 
: - to the pitch.
 
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'''Further observations'''
 
* The up- and downturn of the speed in [[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]] (second 6) on the Complete BBC RadioOne Sessions Box and the [[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP
 
: give the impression that the sorce of the sound might be the same and a different one to the other bootlegs.
 

Latest revision as of 21:37, 28 December 2018

Sound Comparison


Further observations

  • The up and down turning of the speed in Floorshow (seconds 6 to 7) on the present item, the Complete BBC Radio One Sessions Box,
and likewise on the Gimme Shelter LP, suggests that the source of these two bootlegs was the same and very likely a different one to that of the other bootlegs.
  • On most of the bootlegs mentioned here, some songs are cut, which is clearly audible on Heartland and No Time To Cry.
Sometimes songs get cut on LPs because time available for one record side is limited to about 22 minutes
and going beyond this limit would result in decreased sound quality.
Side 2 of the Psychedelic Sessions 1986 LP, for example, has a total playing time of 23:15 minutes,
which might be the reason why the beginning of No Time To Cry is cut from that record.
  • On the present item all songs appear in full length.



Robertundbobi (talk) 19:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC)