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| + | '''Further observations''' |
| − | * This arrangment consists only of vinyl items. | + | * The up and down turning of the speed in [[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]] (seconds 6 to 7) on the present item, the Complete BBC Radio One Sessions Box, |
| − | * For each session there was a representativ song selected, which is
| + | : and likewise on the [[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP, suggests that the source of these two bootlegs was the same and very likely a different one to that of the other bootlegs. |
| − | : for the [[Wed, 25-Aug-1982|John Peel Session '82]] the song '''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''
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| − | : for the [[Sun, 06-Mar-1983|Kid Jensen Session '83]] the song '''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''
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| − | : for the [[Tue, 19-Jun-1984|John Peel Session '84]] the song '''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''
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| − | | '''''Bootleg:'''''
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| − | | <center>Present item</center>
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| − | | <center>[[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP</center>
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| − | | <center>[[Jolene bw No Time To Cry]] 7"</center>
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| − | | <center>[[Lord Of Darkness]] LP</center>
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| − | | '''''Year of release:'''''  
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| − | | <center>2018</center>
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| − | | <center>2014</center>
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| − | | <center>late eighties</center>
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| − | | <center>unknown</center>
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| − | | [[File:Complete BBC Radio One Sessions1.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:GimmeShelterFront.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Jolene - No Time To Cry Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Lord of Darkness FRONT.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | |'''''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''''
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| − | | [[File:Floor Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Floor Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | [[File:Floor Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | |'''''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''''
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| − | | [[File:Heartland Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Heartland Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | [[File:Heartland Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | |'''''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''''
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| − | | [[File:NoTimeToCry Complete.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Gimme.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Single.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Lord.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | '''''Bootleg:'''''
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| − | | <center>[[A Black Pack]] DLP</center>
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| − | | <center>[[Psychedelic Sessions 1986]] LP</center>
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| − | | <center>[[The Dancer's Reward]] LP</center>
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| − | | <center>[[Halloween In Arkham]] LP</center>
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| − | | <center>[[Psychedelic Sessions]] 1984 LP</center>
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| − | | '''''Year of release:'''''  
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| − | | <center>1986</center>
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| − | | <center>1986</center>
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| − | | <center>1985</center>
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| − | | <center>1984</center>
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| − | | <center>1984</center>
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| − | | [[File:A Black Pack Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Psychedelic Sessions 1986 LP Front.jpeg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:The Dancers Reward Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Halloween in arkham front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Psychedelic Sessions 1984 LP 1st Edition Cover Front.jpg|170px|thumb|center]]
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| − | |'''''[[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]]'''''
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| − | | [[File:Floor Black.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Floor Psychedelic86.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | [[File:Floor Psychedelic84.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | |'''''[[Heartland (song)|Heartland]]'''''
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | | [[File:Heartland Psychedelic84.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | |'''''[[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]'''''
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Black.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Psychedelic86.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Dancer.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | [[File:Notimetocry Halloween.mp3|170px|center]]
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| − | | <center>---</center>
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| − | '''Technical remarks'''
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| − | * The songs were reproduced by a ''Pioneer PLX 500'' turmtable and digitized with its software ''Rekordbox DVS''.
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| − | * Due to Wikipedia storage space limits the files had to be converted from a lossless format to mp3.
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| − | : All the songs went through the ''same'' conversion process and are accordingly still comparable,
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| − | : although they are of less sound quality than the originally generated files.
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| − | * The records were taken from a private collection. They have different grades of use and age. | + | * On most of the bootlegs mentioned here, some songs are cut, which is clearly audible on [[Heartland (song)|Heartland]] and [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]. |
| − | : According to the [https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items Goldmine Standard for grading] most of the vinyls are ''near mint'',
| + | : Sometimes songs get cut on LPs because time available for one record side is limited to about 22 minutes |
| − | : with the exception of [[Lord Of Darkness]], [[Halloween In Arkham]] and [[Jolene bw No Time To Cry]], which are ''very good plus'',
| + | : and going beyond this limit would result in decreased sound quality. |
| − | : and [[A Black Pack]] that can be considered as ''very good''.
| + | : Side 2 of the [[Psychedelic Sessions 1986]] LP, for example, has a total playing time of 23:15 minutes, |
| − | : One should bear this in mind while comparing the sounds. | + | : which might be the reason why the beginning of [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]] is cut from that record. |
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| − | * We want to emphasize that all the sound files are the first seconds of the songs.
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| − | : The files were not manipulated adulterantly or shortened during the recording and conversion process.
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| − | '''Analisis'''
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| − | * First and foremost one should turn his attention to
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| − | : - the clearness of the sound, and if the instruments are distinguishable. | |
| − | : - to the treble sound, like the the sound of the hi-hat of [[Doktor Avalanche]], and if it is to sharp or - the other way around - even lost. | |
| − | : - to the pitch. | |
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| − | * Because of the low quality of the mp3 files, the bass sounds do not differ too much.
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| − | '''Further observations'''
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| − | * The up- and downturn of the speed in [[Floorshow (song)|Floorshow]] (seconds 6 to 7) on the present item, the Complete BBC Radio One Sessions Box, as well as on the [[Gimme Shelter (LP)|Gimme Shelter]] LP,
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| − | : give the impression that the songs come from the same sorce, which is most likely a different one from the other bootlegs.
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| − | * On a lot of bootlegs the songs were shortened, as it is clearly audialble on [[Heartland (song)|Heartland]] and [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]. | + | * On the present item all songs appear in full length. |
| − | : Sometimes songs get shortened on a LP due to the limited time of one record side, which should be about 22 minutes.
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| − | : If the playing time would increase, the record lacked sound quality.
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| − | : For example, the second side of the [[Psychedelic Sessions 1986]] LP has got a total playing time of 23:15 minutes.
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| − | : Maybe this was the reason why the beginning of [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]] was skipped there.
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| − | : On the present item non of the songs is shortened.
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| | + | [[User:Robertundbobi|Robertundbobi]] ([[User talk:Robertundbobi|talk]]) 19:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC) |
