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A 12" vinyl bootleg that features selected live cuts, quotes and snippets of interviews with [[Andrew Eldritch]] recorded during the early 1980s.<br/>
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===<span style="color:#43636b"><font size="3">''Interview with the Bootleggers ''</font></span>===
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'''''Hello, this new bootleg is clearly an outstanding release. What gave you the idea for an elaborated bootleg as this one definitely is?'''''<br/>
The distibution of this item was organized totally diffrent to conventional bootlegs so far. There was a quiz about the [[Main Page|Sisters of Mercy]] added as the inlay to the record. By using the services of modern internet sites, which was in first place [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discogs the crowdsourced database Discogs], web site users could gain one copy for free by resolving the quiz.<br/>
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''Well, at any rate we wanted to make something special with a focus on Andi's quotes and remarks. And so we included the interviews to the record.''<br/>''The result may be good or bad. There has, however, never been made anything like this before.''
Now, with the end of 2018, there are all copies gone, and the quiz has ended.<br/>
 
<br/>
 
The worldwide distribution has finalized this way:<br/>
 
Germany - 7 copies<br/>
 
England - 2 copies<br/>
 
France - 2 copies<br/>
 
Spain - 2 copies<br/>
 
Austria - 1 copy<br/>
 
Belgium - 1 copy<br/>
 
Finnland - 1 copy<br/>
 
Italy - 1 copy<br/>
 
Sweden - 1 copy<br/>
 
Switzerland - 1 copy<br/>
 
USA - 1 copy<br/>
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
 
'''Release Notes'''
 
* Label: rhay creations
 
 
 
* Catalogue#: rhay 13
 
 
 
* Format: 12" vinyl LP
 
 
 
* Released: 2018
 
 
 
* Production Note: Lathe Cut
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
 
'''General remarks'''
 
 
 
* Strictly limited to 20 copies, not numbered.
 
  
* The vinyl is translucent.
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''Beyond that, we intended to create something that is not like the many other bootlegs. Teenage Angst is a new product and was therefore meant to differ''<br/>''from the thousands of Greek or Australian lathe-cuts out there nowadays. For this reason, we also decided against coloured or multicoloured vinyl.''<br/>''No numbering, no special edition or what other marketing incentives are applied these days. Just 20 original vinyl bootlegs.''
  
* The label shows a dark cloudy landscape with the word "MASTERPLAN" in big, white letters in the middle.
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''Furthermore, we wanted the cover to differ from other bootlegs as well. So we added a fully printed inner sleeve.''<br/>''As far as I am aware, this is the only Sisters bootleg with an inner sleeve.''<br/>
: and "rhay 13" is witten below in smaller, but also white letters.
 
: It is identical on both sides.
 
 
 
* The musical background in the beginnig of side A is taken from the song "Cientos De Mentiras"
 
: which is the opener song of the album [https://www.discogs.com/master/view/1282120 Los Jovenes Mueren Antes Del Tiempo] de [https://www.discogs.com/artist/1244457-Deluxe-11 Deluxe],
 
: a Spanish Indie Pop band of the 90ies. To listen to the whole song click [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vki-NfEtc0 here].
 
 
 
* Comes with a black ribbon that adsorbs a black envelope to the cover.
 
: There is also an inner cover and the before mentioned inlay.
 
: The envelope contains a dedication postcard, a letter and the rhay creation mail order sheet.
 
 
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'''''Oh yes, that surely is unique. What first captured our attention is the materials used for the cover art. And the letters of the font, above all.'''<br/>'''We think it's gorgeous that one can haptically perceive them on the cover at a touch. That's just awesome. What are they made of?'''''<br/>
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''The printed cover art stickers are made of vinyl and so are the letters of the font. These are adhesive letters, kiss-cut with a plotter from a sheet of vinyl,''<br/>''then pre-spaced and placed onto pre-masked transfer tape. When the back liner is peeled off, the tape as a whole is applied to the intended surface.''<br/>''Due pressure to the front of the pre-mask side will fix the adhesive letters firmly to the surface. Now the pre-mask is removed and only the letters remain''<br/>''in place. The same was done with the printed vinyl image stickers.''<br/>
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
'''Remarks concerning the cover'''
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'''''And the vinyl, too. It looks so super clear and transparent! Is it 180g, actually?'''''<br/>
 
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''Yes, 180g clear transparent vinyl.''<br/>
* The cover consists of a white generic sleeve with kiss-cut stickers glued to it.
 
* The front cover art shows a low resolution black and white image of the scupture [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloak_of_Conscience "Pietà" or "Cloak of Conscience"]
 
: located in a corner of the Kapitelplatz in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzburg Salzburg].
 
: It was created by the Czech painter and sculptor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Chrom%C3%BD Anna Chromý].
 
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<br/>
 
<br/>
'''Remarks concerning the inner cover'''
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'''''But what song is there at the beginning of the LP? Doesn't sound like The Sisters?'''''<br/>
 
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''It's the beginning of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vki-NfEtc0 ''Cientos de Mentiras  (Lots of Lies)''] by [https://www.discogs.com/artist/1244457-Deluxe-11 ''Deluxe''], a Spanish indie pop band of the 1990s. We love them and we thought that song ''<br/>''rather suitable as an intro.''<br/>
* On one side there is the tracklist printed over a coloured picture of the sculpture Pietà,
 
: enframed by the quotes and snippets of the interviews that are features on the record.
 
 
 
* Additional notes:
 
: THESE SONGS WERE SELECTED, RIPPED OFF, SET TO THE RIGHT PITCH,
 
: REMIXED, REMASTERED, AND MERGED AT BIKE STUDIOS IN THE CAVE
 
: WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM DELUXE AND MARWOOD.
 
: IF YOU'D LIKE TO DEE FOR REAL ALL THE IMAGES 'TEENAGE ANGST' CONTAIN,
 
: YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO FIRST TO A REALLY GOOD RECORD SHOP
 
: AND THEN VISIT SALZBURG, MORCAT AND RODELLAR.
 
: JESUS HAS BEEN THERE.
 
 
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<br/>
: WE'D LIKE TO THANK: CANDY (FOR THE AFFECTION), ROBERT (FOR THE GUIDANCE)
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'''''And why the quiz?'''''<br/>
: AND SPIGGY (FOR THOSE COOL RUN-OUT GROOVES).
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''Nowadays, collecting vinyl is no longer a matter of devotion, passion or need; it has become a question of money and greed, rather.''
: SPECIAL THANX TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE FOLLOWING INTERNET SITES:
 
: 'SISTERSWIKI.ORG', 'ULTIMATESISTERSGUIDE.ORG', 'SISTERSBOOTLEGS.DE',
 
: 'SISTERSFANBLOGSPOT.COM' AND - OF COURSE - MYHEARTLAND.CO.UK'.
 
: WITHOUT THE DEDICATION OF THESE PEOPLE 'TEENAGE ANGST' WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN.
 
: THIS IS THE MASTERPLAN RECORD.
 
  
* In the lower right corner there is the rhay creations logo
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''Some (long-term Sisters fans) might remember how it was to travel to another city looking for bootlegs at a record exchange, or how during a stopover''<br/>''in London we ran to Camden to trawl through all the record stores there, while our friends and girlfriends were heading down to the River Thames to see''<br/>''the Tower Bridge. On one occasion, I even borrowed money from my English teacher to get hold of the "Adult Movies"...''<br/>
: with a wrong catalogue number:
 
: rhay 15, instead of rhay 13 as it says correctly on the label.
 
  
* On the other side ther is a timeline from 1983 to WAKE,
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''Nowadays, vinyl records are only just a click away, though, at certainly ten times the cost. Should record collecting have become an exclusive hobby''<br/>''for only the rich and no longer be affordable for music and vinyl aficionados and aficionadas?! In this view, we decided to create a rarity available only''<br/>''to actual fans of The Sisters, no matter whether they are rich or poor. And a quiz seemed an appropriate solution to us.''<br/>
: which represents the [[Tue, 18-Jun-1985|final gig at the Royal Albert Hall in 1985]].
 
: Aside of this line there are the bootlegs listed from which the songs of the present album were ripped off.
 
: To each album there is a exerpt of the lyrics of the song, the song and album title mentioned.
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
 
'''The Quiz'''
 
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<br/>
 
 
<br/>
 
<br/>
== Track List ==
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'''''But how did you finance ''Teenage Angst'' then?''''' <br/>
'''''Side 1'''''
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''Well, for the moment, rhay creations have advanced the cash. There is, however, a plan according to which we are going to regain the cost over the''<br/>''coming months or years. We've simply increased the prices of all other rhay products slightly. If our plan works out properly, we'll be back in the black''<br/>''as soon as all these records are sold.''<br/>
{|
 
| '''''Intro title'''''
 
| '''''Source of the intro'''''
 
| '''''Song title'''''
 
| '''''Duration'''''&emsp;
 
| '''''Source'''''
 
|-
 
| Intro
 
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxc7UDp8m1s Excerpt from the radio broadcast]
 
| A1&nbsp; [[Some Kind Of Stranger (song)|Some Kind Of Stranger]]&emsp;&emsp;
 
| &emsp;5:43&emsp;&emsp;
 
| [[Mon, 25-Mar-1985|Lyceum, London, England,]]
 
|-
 
|
 
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxc7UDp8m1s "Andrew Eldritch Presents His Top Tunes"]&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Mon, 25-Mar-1985|on Monday, March 25th, 1985]]
 
|-
 
|
 
| on BRT2 1984
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
| &nbsp;
 
|-
 
| The Sisters And The Stones &emsp;&emsp;
 
| [[Gimme Shelter (song)|Part of an interview with Andrew Eldritch]]&emsp;&emsp;
 
| A2&nbsp; [[Gimme Shelter (song)|Gimme Shelter]]
 
| &emsp;5:58
 
| [[Fri, 17-May-1985|Kolingsborg Club, Stockholm, Sweden,]]
 
|-
 
|
 
| [[Gimme Shelter (song)|in July 1984]]
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Fri, 17-May-1985|on Friday, May 17th, 1985]]
 
|-
 
| &nbsp;
 
|-
 
| Get Sensetive!
 
| Quotes from the same concert
 
| A3&nbsp; [[Emma (song)|Emma]] (Edit)
 
| &emsp;6:54
 
| [[Tue, 05-Jun-1984|Het Doornrosje, Nijmegen, The Netherlands]]
 
|-
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Tue, 05-Jun-1984|on Tuesday, June 5th, 1984]]
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
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'''''You say "plan". So this is in fact the masterplan? '''''<br/>
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''Yes, "Teenage Angst" is the masterplan bootleg - fincanced through the sale of all the other records.''<br/>
 
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<br/>
'''''Side 2'''''
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'''''What is the "Something Sensitive" bootleg? Is there any chance to purchase it?'''''<br/>
{|
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''"Something Sensitive" was the very first bootleg we ever produced, long before any sort of masterplan has came to our mind. We made only very few of it''<br/>''to check out how and whether lathe-cut production would work. After all, it has become a really beautiful record, in our humble opinion, not only because ''<br/>''the Nijmegen concert is just so insanely great, but also because we love the idea of The Sisters' head-and-star logo subsided in smoke on a stitched and ''<br/>''embossed plastic cover. That also makes it rather original in our view and we're really pleased with the result.''<br/>'' As only very few were made, there is unfortunaley none of them left for sale.''<br/>
| '''''Intro title'''''
 
| '''''Source of the intro'''''
 
| '''''Song title'''''
 
| '''''Duration'''''
 
| '''''Source'''''
 
|-
 
| Collapse
 
| [http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/documents/tv_int.htm#div001 Culled from a Belgium TV]
 
| B1&nbsp; [[Alice (song)|Alice]]
 
| &emsp;3:13&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;
 
|[[Sat, 19-Feb-1983|Brixton Ace, London, England]]
 
|-
 
|
 
| [http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/documents/tv_int.htm#div001 interview in 1985]
 
|
 
|
 
|[[Sat, 19-Feb-1983]]
 
|-
 
| &nbsp;
 
|-
 
| The Reptile House Is Perverse&emsp;
 
| [http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/documents/radio_int.htm#div002 Snippet from an iterview realised 1983]&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;
 
| B2&nbsp; [[Fix]]
 
| &emsp;2:43
 
| [[Tue, 18-Jun-1985|Royal Albert Hall, London, England]]
 
|-
 
|
 
| [http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/documents/radio_int.htm#div002 at the American broadcaster WNYU]
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Tue, 18-Jun-1985]]
 
|-
 
| &nbsp;
 
|-
 
| Clocks
 
| A whit from the movie [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGWQlEnNcQ "Withnail and I"]
 
| B3&nbsp; [[Nine While Nine (song)|Nine While Nine]]&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;&emsp;
 
| &emsp;4:20
 
| [[Wed, 13-Mar-1985|Tiffany's, Newcastle, UK]]
 
|-
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Wed, 13-Mar-1985]]
 
|-
 
| &nbsp;
 
|-
 
| We Are Not Gloomy
 
| Quotes from the same concert
 
| B4&nbsp; [[No Time To Cry (song)|No Time To Cry]]
 
| &emsp;4:23
 
| [[Thu, 30-May-1985|Fenders Ballroom, Long Beach, USA]]
 
|-
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Thu, 30-May-1985]]
 
|-
 
| &nbsp;
 
|-
 
| Barmherzigkeit
 
| Quotes from the same concert
 
| B5&nbsp; [[Temple Of Love (song)|Temple Of Love]]
 
| &emsp;4:20
 
| [[Tue, 30-Aug-1983|Loft, West Berlin, West Germany]]
 
|-
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
| [[Tue, 30-Aug-1983]]
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
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'''''Can we reckon on more records being released by rhay creations in the future?''''<br/>
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''Well, there are, of course, plenty good ideas, while money is tight. Let's see...''<br/>
 
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<br/>
'''Additional Pictures'''
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'''Thank you very much for this extensive interview. It's been a pleasure talking to you ... :-)))... '''<br/>
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''A great many thanks to you, too. The pleasure's all on our side ... ;-))) ...''<br/>
- Please click into pictures for larger views -
 
  
 
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[[Category: Bootlegs]]
 
[[Category: Live Bootlegs]]
 
[[Category: Vinyl Bootlegs 12"]]
 

Latest revision as of 13:38, 4 February 2019


Interview with the Bootleggers

Hello, this new bootleg is clearly an outstanding release. What gave you the idea for an elaborated bootleg as this one definitely is?
Well, at any rate we wanted to make something special with a focus on Andi's quotes and remarks. And so we included the interviews to the record.
The result may be good or bad. There has, however, never been made anything like this before.

Beyond that, we intended to create something that is not like the many other bootlegs. Teenage Angst is a new product and was therefore meant to differ
from the thousands of Greek or Australian lathe-cuts out there nowadays. For this reason, we also decided against coloured or multicoloured vinyl.
No numbering, no special edition or what other marketing incentives are applied these days. Just 20 original vinyl bootlegs.

Furthermore, we wanted the cover to differ from other bootlegs as well. So we added a fully printed inner sleeve.
As far as I am aware, this is the only Sisters bootleg with an inner sleeve.

Oh yes, that surely is unique. What first captured our attention is the materials used for the cover art. And the letters of the font, above all.
We think it's gorgeous that one can haptically perceive them on the cover at a touch. That's just awesome. What are they made of?

The printed cover art stickers are made of vinyl and so are the letters of the font. These are adhesive letters, kiss-cut with a plotter from a sheet of vinyl,
then pre-spaced and placed onto pre-masked transfer tape. When the back liner is peeled off, the tape as a whole is applied to the intended surface.
Due pressure to the front of the pre-mask side will fix the adhesive letters firmly to the surface. Now the pre-mask is removed and only the letters remain
in place. The same was done with the printed vinyl image stickers.

And the vinyl, too. It looks so super clear and transparent! Is it 180g, actually?
Yes, 180g clear transparent vinyl.

But what song is there at the beginning of the LP? Doesn't sound like The Sisters?
It's the beginning of Cientos de Mentiras (Lots of Lies) by Deluxe, a Spanish indie pop band of the 1990s. We love them and we thought that song
rather suitable as an intro.

And why the quiz?
Nowadays, collecting vinyl is no longer a matter of devotion, passion or need; it has become a question of money and greed, rather.

Some (long-term Sisters fans) might remember how it was to travel to another city looking for bootlegs at a record exchange, or how during a stopover
in London we ran to Camden to trawl through all the record stores there, while our friends and girlfriends were heading down to the River Thames to see
the Tower Bridge. On one occasion, I even borrowed money from my English teacher to get hold of the "Adult Movies"...

Nowadays, vinyl records are only just a click away, though, at certainly ten times the cost. Should record collecting have become an exclusive hobby
for only the rich and no longer be affordable for music and vinyl aficionados and aficionadas?! In this view, we decided to create a rarity available only
to actual fans of The Sisters, no matter whether they are rich or poor. And a quiz seemed an appropriate solution to us.

But how did you finance Teenage Angst then?
Well, for the moment, rhay creations have advanced the cash. There is, however, a plan according to which we are going to regain the cost over the
coming months or years. We've simply increased the prices of all other rhay products slightly. If our plan works out properly, we'll be back in the black
as soon as all these records are sold.

You say "plan". So this is in fact the masterplan?
Yes, "Teenage Angst" is the masterplan bootleg - fincanced through the sale of all the other records.

What is the "Something Sensitive" bootleg? Is there any chance to purchase it?
"Something Sensitive" was the very first bootleg we ever produced, long before any sort of masterplan has came to our mind. We made only very few of it
to check out how and whether lathe-cut production would work. After all, it has become a really beautiful record, in our humble opinion, not only because
the Nijmegen concert is just so insanely great, but also because we love the idea of The Sisters' head-and-star logo subsided in smoke on a stitched and
embossed plastic cover. That also makes it rather original in our view and we're really pleased with the result.
As only very few were made, there is unfortunaley none of them left for sale.

Can we reckon on more records being released by rhay creations in the future?'
Well, there are, of course, plenty good ideas, while money is tight. Let's see...

Thank you very much for this extensive interview. It's been a pleasure talking to you ... :-)))...
A great many thanks to you, too. The pleasure's all on our side ... ;-))) ...